Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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FINALLY! Can you prove God exists? If you can I won't ask again!

by punkofnice in

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

THE GLADIATOR

PSacramento "I think that the life we have is the life we have because it has adapoted to this environment with that values that our universe has.

If our universe had different values, life, if there was any, would probably be "fine tuned" for those values, as we are "fine tuned" for Ours.

I think it is a matter of perception:

Is the universe fine tuned for Us or are we fine tuned for it?

That there universe can be so mathematically precises is amazing BUT is it mathematically precise because it IS that way or is our math precise for the universe we live in ?"

This could be your most insightful post ever.

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FINALLY! Can you prove God exists? If you can I won't ask again!

by punkofnice in

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

Apparently more than 99% of all creatures that ever lived are now extinct. I don’t know who was around to count them all, but if it’s true then it's a poor result for a perfect god. On the other hand it is a tremendous result if all creatures stumbled blindly from one challenge to another as they evolved.

There is a possibility that humans will continue to over-populate the planet, run out of resources, fresh water, space and also become extinct. Such is life on this hostile planet. Is there is a biblical God that will step in and stop that? Or would he lose his patience and destroy us all instead, as in the days of Noah? Ah there's the rub!

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If god exists...

by dazed but not confused in

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if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?

THE GLADIATOR

dazed but not confused From the opening post. “The more I think logically and critically about god the more I hate the concept of GOD. Fortunately, from what I can see, that’s all he is… a concept. Man made.”

Thank you for tolerating my jesting. The reason I joke about such things is that I have done all the heavy debating and can’t take the idea of a personal god seriously any more. Here is where the problem lies. Humans have created a god in their own image and imbued it with their traits, feelings and expectations.

Whatever invisible forces are at work in the universe they demonstrate themselves on earth every day. Reality is what it is and no amount of pleading, pleasing or worshiping will alter the reality of our mortality. Those that are able to believe in a personal god are ‘blessed.’ Many humans before us have lived with courage and died expecting nothing more. Whatever we believe in, we will follow them.

"Nos morituri te salutamus"

We who are about to die salute you

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If god exists...

by dazed but not confused in

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if god exists, wouldnt it make more sense for him to show himself today - now that we are a more enlightened people?

THE GLADIATOR

dazed but not confused “O r am I missing something? ”

Only God! The question remains - is he missing you?

To clear up the confusion there are hundreds of gods. All the gods are welcome to my next party but they will have to bring their own ambrosia. Thrones will not be provided as I expect them to be on the dance floor. They can take their shoes of as I don't want stardust on my carpets. They are welcome to dish out rewards to my friends but can leave all that macho fire and brimstone stuff behind. My hopes of them attending are not high. It will be a miracle if even a dozen turn up.

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Believers and dinosaurs

by Christ Alone in

i was curious to hear what other believers understand about dinosaurs.

i know we have a few young earth creationists here.

i wondered what you understand about dinosaurs and when they existed, as well as hear from those that believe dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and how it fits into the bible..

THE GLADIATOR

Chariklo Thanks for the picture of that gladiator. It's the only thing that has interested me all evening.

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wear a cross for protection

by Honeybucket in

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the holy cross will protect you from vampires and jehovahs witnesses.

THE GLADIATOR

Yeah but don't forget to attach a blade to it!

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Is it ethical to confess extramarital sex to your spouse

by Most Noble in

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durex's global sex survey has found that 44% of adults worldwide have had one-night extramarital sex and 22% have had an affair.according to a 2004 united states survey, 16% of married partners have had extramarital sex, nearly twice as many men as women, while an additional 30% have fantasized about extramarital sex.

there were also studies that have shown rates of extramarital sex as low as 2.5%.as many authors conclude, these kinds of estimates are probably understated because extramarital sex is commonly disapproved.. .

what do you think is it ethical to confess an extramarital affair?.

THE GLADIATOR

It's ethical - if you believe in suicide.

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Have You Changed Since Getting On To This Site?

by minimus in

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are you the same poster/person now?

i have seen many posters mature here.

some still act like jws but others have shown recovery and progress from the witness mentality..

THE GLADIATOR

moshe It's no good just waiting, you need to set a baited trap.

Ten years ago I didn’t know whether to become a Buddhist, Atheist, Tibetan monk, Agnostic, Christian or Epicurean.

I’m still no further forward except that my Epicurean leanings are increasing despite the efforts of Christians to save me.

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Stronger Christian presence on JWN?

by Christ Alone in

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i've only been a member here for a short time, but it seems like there are more christians on the board lately.

for the first few months that i was on jwn, it appeared that there were very few that argued in favor of a creator and belief in the bible in particular.

there seems to be several more that have recently joined...or at least posted more regularly regarding belief.

THE GLADIATOR

rickisteel the gladiator " indecision clouds my vision "

Sometimes it's better to be indecisive than grab hold of a belief in something just so we can say we have made our mind up. Then we are able to stop thinking, enquiring, wondering, growing; all activities that make being human so great.

I am prepared to remain indecisive for the rest of my life. In fact, ignorance is bliss.

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I Still Can't Celebrate Xmas. Can You? Christians vs Atheists

by Malsonilla in

while in the organization we learned one bit of truth regarding christmas; that it was originally a pagan observance, the summer solstice, adopted by christians much later in church history, and has nothing to do with jesus christ whatsoever.

no biggy for most true believers who left the organization who have slipped into (or fell back into) the grind of commercialized christmas with all the trappings and traditions of ritual binge spending that takes them even farther away from jesus than christmas' pagan roots ever could.

these true believers might say something like, "i know xmas has its roots in paganism, but we celebrate anyway because of x y z", perhaps echoing or paroting the frustrating responses we use to hear from "worldly" goats/folks when we would explain to them how christmas is not a christian observance whatsoever.

THE GLADIATOR

Jehovah's Witnesses assert that Christmas is based on the pagan Roman festival of Saturnalia. This makes it ideal for non- Christians to celebrate. As most Christian symbols and festival have been absorbed from pagans and become acceptable mainstream Christian tradition, Christmas is also ideal for Christians. This is a time of the year when we can all be merry and ‘gay’ and enjoy socialising, relaxing and celebrating the achievement of surviving another year while we plan the next one. My Christmas has already started, hope you get started soon.